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Factory service manual diagnostic procedure for 2013 audi s5

35 Gearbox Malfunction Message, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E In Cluster (GROUP 35, NO. 18-29)

Publication date: 2018-04-13
Reference number: GROUP 35, NO. 18-29
Supersedes refnos: 2030477, 2030477/10, 2030477/8, 2030477/9, GROUP 35, NO. 12-05, GROUP 35, NO. 12-06, GROUP 35, NO. 13-10, GROUP 35, NO. 13-13, GROUP 35, NO. 13-14, GROUP 35, NO. 13-15, GROUP 35, NO. 16-20, GROUP 35, NO. 16-21, GROUP 35, NO. 16-24

35 GEARBOX MALFUNCTION MESSAGE, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E IN CLUSTER

35 GEARBOX MALFUNCTION MESSAGE, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E IN CLUSTER

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN

Reference Number(s): GROUP 35, NO. 18-29 (2030477/10), Date of Issue:  April 13, 2018
AUDI: S4, S5 2010 - 2013; RS 5, S6, and S7 2013
GROUP: 35 - Manual Transmission - Gears, Shafts
Superceded Bulletin(s): GROUP 35, NO. 16-24, Date of Issue:  October 14, 2016

APPLICABLE MODELS AND YEARS

35 18 29 2030477/10 April 13, 2018. Supersedes Technical Service Bulletin Group 35 number 16-24 dated October 14, 2016 for reasons listed below.

APPLICABLE MODELS AND YEARS

Model(s) Year VIN Range Vehicle-Specific Equipment
S4, S5 2010 - 2013 All S-Tronic 7 speed transmission
RS 5, S6, and S7 2013 All S-Tronic 7 speed transmission

CONDITION

REVISION HISTORY

Revision Date Purpose
10 - Revised title
Revised Service  (Updated repair instructions)
Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Updated part numbers)
9 10/14/2016 Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Added bolts and oil pipe)
8 04/18/2016 Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Added oil pipe, O-ring and drain plug seal)

Customer states: 

  • The following message appears in the instrument cluster's information display: "Gearbox malfunction: you can continue driving".

Workshop findings: 

One or more of the following DTCs are stored in the transmission control module (TCM), J217 (address word 0002):

  • DTC P17D8  (Torque limitation because of clutch temperature) with symptom code 8040 
  • DTC P0726  (RPM signal of engine control unit, implausible signal) with symptom code 7980 
  • DTC P174B  (Valve 4 in the sub-gearbox 1, electric fault) with symptom code 8027 
  • DTC P174F  (Valve 4 in the sub-gearbox 2, electric fault) with symptom code 8028 
  • DTC P179C  (Main pressure valve, electric fault) with symptom code 8029 
  • DTC P179D  (Coolant oil valve electrical fault) with symptom code 8030 
  • DTC P174C  (Partial transmission 1 valve 2 Electrical error) with symptom code 8026 
  • DTC P174A  (Valve 3 in the sub-gearbox 1, electric fault) with symptom code 8939 
  • DTC P174E  (Valve 3 in the sub-gearbox 2, electric fault) with symptom code 8940 
  • DTC P1740  (Clutch temperature monitoring) with symptom code 8031 

Tip:  Fault codes and symptom codes must match exactly or this TSB should not be followed. Instructions for obtaining the symptom codes are in the Service section of this bulletin.

TECHNICAL BACKGROUND

Poor internal contact area on circuit board will lead to faults. Oil additives can cause the plastic circuit plates to delaminate, causing contact loss.

PRODUCTION SOLUTION

Improved circuit board for mechatronics unit.

SERVICE

Confirm that this TSB applies by checking the symptom code: 

  1. Check the DTC memory. The symptom code is listed with the DTC (Figure 1).
    G11962777
  2. If the DTC is listed in the Condition  section of this bulletin, and it has the corresponding symptom code from the list, perform the repair that follows.

If the TSB applies, perform the following repair: 

  1. Remove the Mechatronics unit per instructions in the repair manual.
  2. Replace the Mechatronics Circuit board per the repair manual instructions.
  3. Reinstall the Mechatronics unit per the repair manual instructions.
    NOTE: Be sure to follow all cautions and warnings noted in the Repair Manual.

Tip:  If the connector locks are damaged when the circuit board is replaced, the mechatronics unit must be replaced. Once connected, the circuit board cannot be removed and used again.

WARRANTY

WARRANTY INFORMATION

Claim Type: 
  • 110 up to 48 Months/50,000 Miles.
  • G10 for CPO Covered Vehicles - Verify Owner.
  • If vehicle is outside any warranty, this Technical Service Bulletin is informational only.
Service Number:  3511
Damage Code:  0040
Labor Operations:  Remove and install mechatronics 3511 1900 250 TU
Remove and install printed circuit 3511 3799 40 TU
Diagnostic Time:  GFF to perform adaptation procedure. 0150 0000 Time stated on diagnostic protocol (Max 40 TU)
Road test prior to service procedure No allowance 0 TU
Road test after service procedure 0121 0004 10 TU
Claim Comment:  As per TSB #2030477/10

All warranty claims submitted for payment must be in accordance with the Audi Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual  . Claims are subject to review or audit by Audi Warranty.

REQUIRED PARTS AND TOOLS

NOTE: The Circuit Board (Repair Kit) is VIN-specific and must be ordered to the VIN of the vehicle.

Always check with your Parts Department and/or ETKA for the latest information and parts bulletins. Please check the Repair Manual for fasteners, bolts, nuts, and screws that require replacement during the repair.

PARTS INFORMATION

Part Number Part Description Quantity
0B5398009D Repair kit: Printed circuit foil for valve body 01
N 10405702 Bolts for Mechatronics unit 06
0B5315105TA Oil pipes with seal 01
0B5321371F Pan gasket 01
0B5321473 Oil pipe 01
0B5315105TC Oil pipes with seal 01
WHT003379 O-ring 01
N 0138271 Drain plug seal (Production before 4/25/2011) 01
N 0138275 Drain plug seal (Production 4/25/2011 forward) 01
G 052529A2 ATF 07

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

All parts and service references provided in this TSB (2030477) are subject to change and/or removal.

©2018 Audi of America, Inc.  All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher.

35 Gearbox Malfunction Message, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E In Cluster (GROUP 35, NO. 18-29)

WARNING: This page is about the S5 Premium Plus, 2D Convertible, which is a different variant/trim than selected.
Publication date: 2018-04-13
Reference number: GROUP 35, NO. 18-29
Supersedes refnos: 2030477, 2030477/10, 2030477/8, 2030477/9, GROUP 35, NO. 12-05, GROUP 35, NO. 12-06, GROUP 35, NO. 13-10, GROUP 35, NO. 13-13, GROUP 35, NO. 13-14, GROUP 35, NO. 13-15, GROUP 35, NO. 16-20, GROUP 35, NO. 16-21, GROUP 35, NO. 16-24

35 GEARBOX MALFUNCTION MESSAGE, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E IN CLUSTER

35 GEARBOX MALFUNCTION MESSAGE, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E IN CLUSTER

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN

Reference Number(s): GROUP 35, NO. 18-29 (2030477/10), Date of Issue:  April 13, 2018
AUDI: S4, S5 2010 - 2013; RS 5, S6, and S7 2013
GROUP: 35 - Manual Transmission - Gears, Shafts
Superceded Bulletin(s): GROUP 35, NO. 16-24, Date of Issue:  October 14, 2016

APPLICABLE MODELS AND YEARS

35 18 29 2030477/10 April 13, 2018. Supersedes Technical Service Bulletin Group 35 number 16-24 dated October 14, 2016 for reasons listed below.

APPLICABLE MODELS AND YEARS

Model(s) Year VIN Range Vehicle-Specific Equipment
S4, S5 2010 - 2013 All S-Tronic 7 speed transmission
RS 5, S6, and S7 2013 All S-Tronic 7 speed transmission

CONDITION

REVISION HISTORY

Revision Date Purpose
10 - Revised title
Revised Service  (Updated repair instructions)
Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Updated part numbers)
9 10/14/2016 Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Added bolts and oil pipe)
8 04/18/2016 Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Added oil pipe, O-ring and drain plug seal)

Customer states: 

  • The following message appears in the instrument cluster's information display: "Gearbox malfunction: you can continue driving".

Workshop findings: 

One or more of the following DTCs are stored in the transmission control module (TCM), J217 (address word 0002):

  • DTC P17D8  (Torque limitation because of clutch temperature) with symptom code 8040 
  • DTC P0726  (RPM signal of engine control unit, implausible signal) with symptom code 7980 
  • DTC P174B  (Valve 4 in the sub-gearbox 1, electric fault) with symptom code 8027 
  • DTC P174F  (Valve 4 in the sub-gearbox 2, electric fault) with symptom code 8028 
  • DTC P179C  (Main pressure valve, electric fault) with symptom code 8029 
  • DTC P179D  (Coolant oil valve electrical fault) with symptom code 8030 
  • DTC P174C  (Partial transmission 1 valve 2 Electrical error) with symptom code 8026 
  • DTC P174A  (Valve 3 in the sub-gearbox 1, electric fault) with symptom code 8939 
  • DTC P174E  (Valve 3 in the sub-gearbox 2, electric fault) with symptom code 8940 
  • DTC P1740  (Clutch temperature monitoring) with symptom code 8031 

Tip:  Fault codes and symptom codes must match exactly or this TSB should not be followed. Instructions for obtaining the symptom codes are in the Service section of this bulletin.

TECHNICAL BACKGROUND

Poor internal contact area on circuit board will lead to faults. Oil additives can cause the plastic circuit plates to delaminate, causing contact loss.

PRODUCTION SOLUTION

Improved circuit board for mechatronics unit.

SERVICE

Confirm that this TSB applies by checking the symptom code: 

  1. Check the DTC memory. The symptom code is listed with the DTC (Figure 1).
    G11962777
  2. If the DTC is listed in the Condition  section of this bulletin, and it has the corresponding symptom code from the list, perform the repair that follows.

If the TSB applies, perform the following repair: 

  1. Remove the Mechatronics unit per instructions in the repair manual.
  2. Replace the Mechatronics Circuit board per the repair manual instructions.
  3. Reinstall the Mechatronics unit per the repair manual instructions.
    NOTE: Be sure to follow all cautions and warnings noted in the Repair Manual.

Tip:  If the connector locks are damaged when the circuit board is replaced, the mechatronics unit must be replaced. Once connected, the circuit board cannot be removed and used again.

WARRANTY

WARRANTY INFORMATION

Claim Type: 
  • 110 up to 48 Months/50,000 Miles.
  • G10 for CPO Covered Vehicles - Verify Owner.
  • If vehicle is outside any warranty, this Technical Service Bulletin is informational only.
Service Number:  3511
Damage Code:  0040
Labor Operations:  Remove and install mechatronics 3511 1900 250 TU
Remove and install printed circuit 3511 3799 40 TU
Diagnostic Time:  GFF to perform adaptation procedure. 0150 0000 Time stated on diagnostic protocol (Max 40 TU)
Road test prior to service procedure No allowance 0 TU
Road test after service procedure 0121 0004 10 TU
Claim Comment:  As per TSB #2030477/10

All warranty claims submitted for payment must be in accordance with the Audi Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual  . Claims are subject to review or audit by Audi Warranty.

REQUIRED PARTS AND TOOLS

NOTE: The Circuit Board (Repair Kit) is VIN-specific and must be ordered to the VIN of the vehicle.

Always check with your Parts Department and/or ETKA for the latest information and parts bulletins. Please check the Repair Manual for fasteners, bolts, nuts, and screws that require replacement during the repair.

PARTS INFORMATION

Part Number Part Description Quantity
0B5398009D Repair kit: Printed circuit foil for valve body 01
N 10405702 Bolts for Mechatronics unit 06
0B5315105TA Oil pipes with seal 01
0B5321371F Pan gasket 01
0B5321473 Oil pipe 01
0B5315105TC Oil pipes with seal 01
WHT003379 O-ring 01
N 0138271 Drain plug seal (Production before 4/25/2011) 01
N 0138275 Drain plug seal (Production 4/25/2011 forward) 01
G 052529A2 ATF 07

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

All parts and service references provided in this TSB (2030477) are subject to change and/or removal.

©2018 Audi of America, Inc.  All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher.

35 Gearbox Malfunction Message, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E In Cluster (GROUP 35, NO. 18-29)

WARNING: This page is about the S5 Premium Plus, 2D Convertible, which is a different variant/trim than selected.
Publication date: 2018-04-13
Reference number: GROUP 35, NO. 18-29
Supersedes refnos: 2030477, 2030477/10, 2030477/8, 2030477/9, GROUP 35, NO. 12-05, GROUP 35, NO. 12-06, GROUP 35, NO. 13-10, GROUP 35, NO. 13-13, GROUP 35, NO. 13-14, GROUP 35, NO. 13-15, GROUP 35, NO. 16-20, GROUP 35, NO. 16-21, GROUP 35, NO. 16-24

35 GEARBOX MALFUNCTION MESSAGE, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E IN CLUSTER

35 GEARBOX MALFUNCTION MESSAGE, DTCS P17D800, P179D00, P174000, P174C, P174B, P174F, P179C, P174A, P174E IN CLUSTER

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN

Reference Number(s): GROUP 35, NO. 18-29 (2030477/10), Date of Issue:  April 13, 2018
AUDI: S4, S5 2010 - 2013; RS 5, S6, and S7 2013
GROUP: 35 - Manual Transmission - Gears, Shafts
Superceded Bulletin(s): GROUP 35, NO. 16-24, Date of Issue:  October 14, 2016

APPLICABLE MODELS AND YEARS

35 18 29 2030477/10 April 13, 2018. Supersedes Technical Service Bulletin Group 35 number 16-24 dated October 14, 2016 for reasons listed below.

APPLICABLE MODELS AND YEARS

Model(s) Year VIN Range Vehicle-Specific Equipment
S4, S5 2010 - 2013 All S-Tronic 7 speed transmission
RS 5, S6, and S7 2013 All S-Tronic 7 speed transmission

CONDITION

REVISION HISTORY

Revision Date Purpose
10 - Revised title
Revised Service  (Updated repair instructions)
Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Updated part numbers)
9 10/14/2016 Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Added bolts and oil pipe)
8 04/18/2016 Revised Required Parts and Tools  (Added oil pipe, O-ring and drain plug seal)

Customer states: 

  • The following message appears in the instrument cluster's information display: "Gearbox malfunction: you can continue driving".

Workshop findings: 

One or more of the following DTCs are stored in the transmission control module (TCM), J217 (address word 0002):

  • DTC P17D8  (Torque limitation because of clutch temperature) with symptom code 8040 
  • DTC P0726  (RPM signal of engine control unit, implausible signal) with symptom code 7980 
  • DTC P174B  (Valve 4 in the sub-gearbox 1, electric fault) with symptom code 8027 
  • DTC P174F  (Valve 4 in the sub-gearbox 2, electric fault) with symptom code 8028 
  • DTC P179C  (Main pressure valve, electric fault) with symptom code 8029 
  • DTC P179D  (Coolant oil valve electrical fault) with symptom code 8030 
  • DTC P174C  (Partial transmission 1 valve 2 Electrical error) with symptom code 8026 
  • DTC P174A  (Valve 3 in the sub-gearbox 1, electric fault) with symptom code 8939 
  • DTC P174E  (Valve 3 in the sub-gearbox 2, electric fault) with symptom code 8940 
  • DTC P1740  (Clutch temperature monitoring) with symptom code 8031 

Tip:  Fault codes and symptom codes must match exactly or this TSB should not be followed. Instructions for obtaining the symptom codes are in the Service section of this bulletin.

TECHNICAL BACKGROUND

Poor internal contact area on circuit board will lead to faults. Oil additives can cause the plastic circuit plates to delaminate, causing contact loss.

PRODUCTION SOLUTION

Improved circuit board for mechatronics unit.

SERVICE

Confirm that this TSB applies by checking the symptom code: 

  1. Check the DTC memory. The symptom code is listed with the DTC (Figure 1).
    G11962777
  2. If the DTC is listed in the Condition  section of this bulletin, and it has the corresponding symptom code from the list, perform the repair that follows.

If the TSB applies, perform the following repair: 

  1. Remove the Mechatronics unit per instructions in the repair manual.
  2. Replace the Mechatronics Circuit board per the repair manual instructions.
  3. Reinstall the Mechatronics unit per the repair manual instructions.
    NOTE: Be sure to follow all cautions and warnings noted in the Repair Manual.

Tip:  If the connector locks are damaged when the circuit board is replaced, the mechatronics unit must be replaced. Once connected, the circuit board cannot be removed and used again.

WARRANTY

WARRANTY INFORMATION

Claim Type: 
  • 110 up to 48 Months/50,000 Miles.
  • G10 for CPO Covered Vehicles - Verify Owner.
  • If vehicle is outside any warranty, this Technical Service Bulletin is informational only.
Service Number:  3511
Damage Code:  0040
Labor Operations:  Remove and install mechatronics 3511 1900 250 TU
Remove and install printed circuit 3511 3799 40 TU
Diagnostic Time:  GFF to perform adaptation procedure. 0150 0000 Time stated on diagnostic protocol (Max 40 TU)
Road test prior to service procedure No allowance 0 TU
Road test after service procedure 0121 0004 10 TU
Claim Comment:  As per TSB #2030477/10

All warranty claims submitted for payment must be in accordance with the Audi Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual  . Claims are subject to review or audit by Audi Warranty.

REQUIRED PARTS AND TOOLS

NOTE: The Circuit Board (Repair Kit) is VIN-specific and must be ordered to the VIN of the vehicle.

Always check with your Parts Department and/or ETKA for the latest information and parts bulletins. Please check the Repair Manual for fasteners, bolts, nuts, and screws that require replacement during the repair.

PARTS INFORMATION

Part Number Part Description Quantity
0B5398009D Repair kit: Printed circuit foil for valve body 01
N 10405702 Bolts for Mechatronics unit 06
0B5315105TA Oil pipes with seal 01
0B5321371F Pan gasket 01
0B5321473 Oil pipe 01
0B5315105TC Oil pipes with seal 01
WHT003379 O-ring 01
N 0138271 Drain plug seal (Production before 4/25/2011) 01
N 0138275 Drain plug seal (Production 4/25/2011 forward) 01
G 052529A2 ATF 07

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

All parts and service references provided in this TSB (2030477) are subject to change and/or removal.

©2018 Audi of America, Inc.  All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher.

Supporting Diagrams & Locations

Reference material from the factory manual for this diagnostic procedure.

Location

3.0L - MULTIPORT Fuel Injection - Engine Code(S): CCBA, CGXC & CTUB (As Of 02.2015) (Sedan)

Location

3.0L - MULTIPORT Fuel Injection - Engine Code(S): CCBA, CGXC & CTUB (As Of 09.2013) (Sedan)

Location

00 Software Version Management (SVM), Operating Instructions (GROUP 00, NO. 21-55)

Location

00 Software Version Management (SVM), Operating Instructions (GROUP 00, NO. 21-55)

Fuse/Relay

27 48V Reference: Charging 48V Battery With 12V Charger DTC P0A7D00/P0B2900 (GROUP 27, NO. 24-71)

Fuse/Relay

27 48V Reference: Charging 48V Battery With 12V Charger DTC P0A7D00/P0B2900 (GROUP 27, NO. 24-71)

Fuse/Relay

27 48V Reference: Charging 48V Battery With 12V Charger DTC P0A7D00/P0B2900 (GROUP 27, NO. 24-71)

Fuse/Relay

27 48V Reference: Charging 48V Battery With 12V Charger DTC P0A7D00/P0B2900 (GROUP 27, NO. 24-71)

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