2000 Honda InsightFACTORY OEM SERVICE PROCEDURE

DTC P1647 (2): Power Command Signal Circuit High Input; DTC P16B4 (2): Power Command Signal Circuit High Input

NOTE:
  1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II) and watch the MIL.

    Does the MIL come on for the first 2 seconds? 

    1. YES  - Go to step 2.
    2. NO  - Do the MIL circuit troubleshooting, 2000-2004 models (see 2000-2004 MODELS ), 2005-2006 models (see 2005-2006 MODELS ), and recheck.
  2. Reset the MCM (see HOW TO RESET THE MCM ).
  3. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

    Is DTC P1647 (2)** (P16B4 (2)*) indicated? 

    1. YES  - Go to step 4.
    2. NO  - Intermittent failure, system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the ECM and at the MCM.
  4. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  5. Disconnect ECM connector D (16P).
  6. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
  7. Measure voltage between ECM connector terminals D8 and B20.
    Fig 1: Measuring Voltage Between ECM Connector Terminals D8 And B20
    G03681406Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    1. YES  - Substitute a known-good ECM; 2000-2001 models (see HOW TO SUBSTITUTE THE ECM FOR TESTING PURPOSE (2000-2001 M/T MODELS) ), 2002-2006 models (see ECM UPDATING AND SUBSTITUTION FOR TESTING-2002-2006 M/T MODELS AND CVT MODEL ), and recheck. If the symptom/ indication goes away, replace the original ECM.
    2. NO  - Go to step 8.
  8. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  9. Turn the battery module switch OFF (see TURNING OFF POWER TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE CIRCUIT ).
  10. Remove the IPU lid (see TURNING OFF POWER TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE CIRCUIT ).
  11. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
  12. Measure voltage between MCM connector terminals C2 and A24.
    Fig 2: Measuring Voltage Between MCM Connector Terminals C2 And A24
    G03681407Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    1. YES  - Repair open in the wire between the MCM (C2) and the ECM (D8).
    2. NO  - Substitute a known-good MCM, turn the battery module switch ON, and recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away, replace the original MCM.
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When to See a Mechanic

Stop DIY work and contact a certified mechanic immediately if any of the following apply:

  • • You smell fuel, burning insulation, or see smoke.
  • • Brakes feel soft, pull hard to one side, or make grinding noises.
  • • The engine overheats, stalls repeatedly, or misfires under load.
  • • You are missing required tools, torque specs, or safe lifting equipment.
  • • You are not confident in the next step or safety outcome.

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